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13th of May, 2016 (Friday) - 27 comments
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😶
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:(
Papy
on page 384
Oh my god
That Guy
on page 384
Oh god. Now the emotion kicks in.
Me, not you
on page 384
Well....
shit
Kid Cthulhu
on page 384
Gah! So Eos is toast too?!
That panel of numb Sam shielding Ash's eyes is like a punch in the gut.
DonatelloFellow
on page 384
D:
Dotcom
on page 384
RIP, Charlie. ...Or Charlie stunt double? How does Sam still exist?
ERA
on page 384
@Dotcom: the answer to that really depends on what kind of time travel we're dealing with, here. I think the most likely candidate discussed has been the "pulling from a different timeline" type instead of "moving within the same timeline" type. The timeline that Sam lives in never had Charlie getting abducted in the first place, obviously.
Jono
on page 384
Well........ that happened....
Wondering if there's a time paradox, some loopback or other such... or if the story will continue as is
Donkey
on page 384
Bucky Balls Theory.
You cannot alter the flow of you own timeline by moving into its past to effect change.
The movement brings you into a parallel reality. Any alteration you make is the continuation of that reality.
Not worded well (or likely accurately) but the gist is there.
Bill
on page 384
Maybe Tober goes by Back to the Future rules? The "ripple effect" means that changes made in one part of the timeline aren't instantaneously real in every part of the timeline. Instead, they propagate somewhat slowly (or else Marty would have vanished as soon as he interrupted his parents' first meeting, rather than having a week to correct his mistake). That principle would also allow Charlie to go forward to meet his future self (as it does for Marty and Jennifer in BTTF2), unless like @ERA mentioned a couple comments ago, he's from a different timeline/reality altogether.
steveha
on page 384
Sam didn't disappear when Charlie was shot for the same reason that Sam doesn't remember being grabbed when he was a child and taken to his adult self.
We don't know the details. It could be that Charlie was pulled from another time line. It could be that Charlie was grabbed and brought forward, then shot, then later the timeline was managed to undo everything so Charlie never died and Sam doesn't remember ever being Charlie.
It seems possible that time travel will be used to fix this. I'm trusting Tober to not just say "then they were all sad, the end." I'm hoping that the ending will have Charlie and Ash still friends together, not "we're sending Charlie back to the time where he belongs" and definitely not "welp, Charlie sure is dead."
that kiwi guy
on page 384
fuck......she does fuck stuff up.
Mr. Jones
on page 384
Whelp. At least Sam is still there. That gives me a reason to call Everett back into question. If Sam is there and, as is assumed, Charlie is not, then Charlie may be from another version of reality (universe, timeline, etc.). Given that Sam doesn't remember traveling in time as a child to live with his twenty-something self, then is can be assumed reasonably. Now... the reason has to be explored. I mean, why send a past, alternate version of someone to the future in another timeline/universe just to be executed for trying to escape execution? *Shrugs* I guess we will find out.
Rock
on page 384
This is so sad...
BayAreaBoy
on page 384
Oh the feels!!!
Rick
on page 384
Maybe Rockwell was adult Sam sent back in time to save his young self who was sent forward in time. Ouch, that made my brain hurt.
Some Physicist Guy
on page 384
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is not using a paradox-loop theory for time travel (the same theory used in Looper) and is more a Many-Worlds theory (same one they used in DBZ) because this is definitely not using a static timeline theory (like in 12 Monkey, the original movie, haven't watched the show)
@Kid Cthulhu, I think that's Charlie's blood on Eos' shirt, she's probably fine
DonaldBrent
on page 384
So... unless they put you in an ambulance for having someone else's blood on your shirt... looks like Eos got gut-shot by Rothwell as she pulled the trigger. And is Charlie really truly dead ('cause that would be awesome)?
Also, I'm choosing to imagine that the lights on the distant (island) shore are fires started by the Thoom Gun's shot.
Matthew Bernal
on page 384
Oh god. What even is going to happen from now on?
Eirika R.
on page 384
Ohhhh good lord.
I'm absolutely loving this part of the story, where it's seems to be pretty far in and yet there's a million more questions then concrete answers then BAM you're hit with a massively emotional scenario like this where you're just staring at your computer screen muttering "...whaaaaat? WHAAAAAAT?!?" to the point of your dog looking at you questioningly(at least in my case haha). Jeez, to witness a child killed in such a way, or losing a close friend out of nowhere at such a young age... It would be unimaginable unless you've gone through it yourself. I don't know how I would deal with it, or if I even could.
It would be a perfect time to go into a hiatus... but please don't :(
Keep up the hard work you beautiful Tober you! Wonderfully done, is all else I can say for now!
Zero
on page 384
I have a feeling that Charlie might be back. Even though Charlie travelled in the future, nothing like that happened to Sam in his childhood=>multiple realities. This means another Charlie from another dimension might show up and they'll have to try to save him again
Chris the Blue
on page 384
Hoooly mooooly.
This got REAL.
Zero
on page 384
What do you all think of page 8 of this comic? Could that be Ash?
Kid Cthulhu
on page 384
@Some Physicist Guy. Sadly, I disagree. Look at the distances between them during the standoff and look at the hole in Eos's belly on this page. Also, Eos is getting loaded in an ambulance.
I guess that bastard really was a Chrono-Assassin.
Faust
on page 384
I'm betting Sam travels back, gives Charlie the watch with a timer on it to move him out the bullets path maybe just forwards a few minutes or something. Might need to hide it on his ankle rather than wrist. When he was asleep in the car would be an opportune moment as he wouldn't know it was there and things wouldn't change because of it.
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CuriousT
on page 383
Wow - intense.
A lot of people were so shocked by the comic that they don't understand the flow of events today - I think they are in denial. Sometimes it's not clear - but today it is pretty clear what happened (or what we are supposed to think happened.) 1. Rothwell has gun under Charlie. 2. Rothwell Shoots Charlie. This panel is EOS watching Charlie get shot. (Bullet does not hit Rothwell - it goes to the right of his head.) 3. Blood spatter is from Charlie's fatal head shot. Rothwell aims at EOS. 4. EOS shoots at Rothwell with future THOOM rifle.
No mystery - yet. Just shock.
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13th of May, 2016 (Friday) - 27 comments
:(
Oh my god
Oh god. Now the emotion kicks in.
Well....
shit
Gah! So Eos is toast too?!
That panel of numb Sam shielding Ash's eyes is like a punch in the gut.
D:
RIP, Charlie. ...Or Charlie stunt double? How does Sam still exist?
@Dotcom: the answer to that really depends on what kind of time travel we're dealing with, here. I think the most likely candidate discussed has been the "pulling from a different timeline" type instead of "moving within the same timeline" type. The timeline that Sam lives in never had Charlie getting abducted in the first place, obviously.
Well........ that happened....
Wondering if there's a time paradox, some loopback or other such... or if the story will continue as is
Bucky Balls Theory.
You cannot alter the flow of you own timeline by moving into its past to effect change.
The movement brings you into a parallel reality. Any alteration you make is the continuation of that reality.
Not worded well (or likely accurately) but the gist is there.
Maybe Tober goes by Back to the Future rules? The "ripple effect" means that changes made in one part of the timeline aren't instantaneously real in every part of the timeline. Instead, they propagate somewhat slowly (or else Marty would have vanished as soon as he interrupted his parents' first meeting, rather than having a week to correct his mistake). That principle would also allow Charlie to go forward to meet his future self (as it does for Marty and Jennifer in BTTF2), unless like @ERA mentioned a couple comments ago, he's from a different timeline/reality altogether.
Sam didn't disappear when Charlie was shot for the same reason that Sam doesn't remember being grabbed when he was a child and taken to his adult self.
We don't know the details. It could be that Charlie was pulled from another time line. It could be that Charlie was grabbed and brought forward, then shot, then later the timeline was managed to undo everything so Charlie never died and Sam doesn't remember ever being Charlie.
It seems possible that time travel will be used to fix this. I'm trusting Tober to not just say "then they were all sad, the end." I'm hoping that the ending will have Charlie and Ash still friends together, not "we're sending Charlie back to the time where he belongs" and definitely not "welp, Charlie sure is dead."
fuck......she does fuck stuff up.
Whelp. At least Sam is still there. That gives me a reason to call Everett back into question. If Sam is there and, as is assumed, Charlie is not, then Charlie may be from another version of reality (universe, timeline, etc.). Given that Sam doesn't remember traveling in time as a child to live with his twenty-something self, then is can be assumed reasonably. Now... the reason has to be explored. I mean, why send a past, alternate version of someone to the future in another timeline/universe just to be executed for trying to escape execution? *Shrugs* I guess we will find out.
This is so sad...
Oh the feels!!!
Maybe Rockwell was adult Sam sent back in time to save his young self who was sent forward in time. Ouch, that made my brain hurt.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is not using a paradox-loop theory for time travel (the same theory used in Looper) and is more a Many-Worlds theory (same one they used in DBZ) because this is definitely not using a static timeline theory (like in 12 Monkey, the original movie, haven't watched the show)
@Kid Cthulhu, I think that's Charlie's blood on Eos' shirt, she's probably fine
So... unless they put you in an ambulance for having someone else's blood on your shirt... looks like Eos got gut-shot by Rothwell as she pulled the trigger. And is Charlie really truly dead ('cause that would be awesome)?
Also, I'm choosing to imagine that the lights on the distant (island) shore are fires started by the Thoom Gun's shot.
Oh god. What even is going to happen from now on?
Ohhhh good lord.
I'm absolutely loving this part of the story, where it's seems to be pretty far in and yet there's a million more questions then concrete answers then BAM you're hit with a massively emotional scenario like this where you're just staring at your computer screen muttering "...whaaaaat? WHAAAAAAT?!?" to the point of your dog looking at you questioningly(at least in my case haha). Jeez, to witness a child killed in such a way, or losing a close friend out of nowhere at such a young age... It would be unimaginable unless you've gone through it yourself. I don't know how I would deal with it, or if I even could.
It would be a perfect time to go into a hiatus... but please don't :(
Keep up the hard work you beautiful Tober you! Wonderfully done, is all else I can say for now!
I have a feeling that Charlie might be back. Even though Charlie travelled in the future, nothing like that happened to Sam in his childhood=>multiple realities. This means another Charlie from another dimension might show up and they'll have to try to save him again
Hoooly mooooly.
This got REAL.
What do you all think of page 8 of this comic? Could that be Ash?
@Some Physicist Guy. Sadly, I disagree. Look at the distances between them during the standoff and look at the hole in Eos's belly on this page. Also, Eos is getting loaded in an ambulance.
I guess that bastard really was a Chrono-Assassin.
I'm betting Sam travels back, gives Charlie the watch with a timer on it to move him out the bullets path maybe just forwards a few minutes or something. Might need to hide it on his ankle rather than wrist. When he was asleep in the car would be an opportune moment as he wouldn't know it was there and things wouldn't change because of it.
Wow - intense.
A lot of people were so shocked by the comic that they don't understand the flow of events today - I think they are in denial. Sometimes it's not clear - but today it is pretty clear what happened (or what we are supposed to think happened.) 1. Rothwell has gun under Charlie. 2. Rothwell Shoots Charlie. This panel is EOS watching Charlie get shot. (Bullet does not hit Rothwell - it goes to the right of his head.) 3. Blood spatter is from Charlie's fatal head shot. Rothwell aims at EOS. 4. EOS shoots at Rothwell with future THOOM rifle.
No mystery - yet. Just shock.